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Old 01-18-2008, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Article on Game-Hacking Prevention by Developers

This article was written by Matthew Pritchard, a developer for AOE and AOE2. It's an interesting read. One quote that I especially thought was amusing is the following:
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they [hackers] are probably more familiar with the Assembly output of an optimized C++ file than you [game developers] are.
He isn't wrong, either.

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Old 01-19-2008, 12:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice read, thanks =).

Their company did a really good job at anti-hacking age of mythology. I remember a while back when i tried to search for hacks none came up.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Agreed. Sheep did an even better job of publicizing how to beat AOM's encryption though, hehe.
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Great article.
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Good read.
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It was an interesting read. Blizzard has implemented similar anti-hack techniques to make map hacking more difficult, but a little perseverance overcomes it.
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Old 02-03-2008, 07:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It's gotta tell you something when the only people who comment on this are people who have written something and contributed in some way to the hacks here.

btw "interesting read"
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Very interesting read, definately worth saving.

A recap of the 'rules'
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Rule #1: If you build it, they will come -- to hack and cheat.
Rule #2: hacking attempts increase with the success of your game.
Rule #3: Cheaters actively try to keep developers from learning their cheats.
Rule #4: Your game, along with everything on the cheater's computer, is not secure. The files are not secure. Memory is not secure. Services and drivers are not secure.
Rule #5: Obscurity is not security.
Rule #6: Any communication over an open line is vulnerable to interception, analysis, and modification.
Rule #7: There is no such thing as a harmless cheat or exploit. Cheaters are incredibly inventive at figuring out how to get the most out of any loophole or exploit.
Rule #8: Trust in the server is everything in a client-server game.
Rule #9: Honest players would love for a game to tip them off to possible cheating. Cheaters want the opposite.
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Age of Empires was a great game. Nice read.
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This is great! Never knew that was possible to my knowledge. Great article.
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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One of the first articles posted on this site that was actually interesting.
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Quite an old article, but a very interesting read.
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That bump was fine, especially for this section.

Definitely a good article to keep bumped, or stickied.
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