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Old 01-11-2008, 12:31 AM   #101 (permalink)
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As a Gentoo user, I assure you Linux is full of bugs. And multiple of my friends(Vader and more...), would also say the same. Then again, developing software solely for Linux, you tend to look and find these things.
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I love Linux, really do, but it has its place, and for everyday usage, most people won't like it. You're an idiot for even trying to argue that, and even stupider for saying Dyn and Perma have no idea what they're talking about; Windows _is_ a superior operating system for most general day usage.
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:48 PM   #104 (permalink)
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trying to run boswars 2.4.1 on ubuntu and get error log:


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X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  141 (XVideo)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
  Serial number of failed request:  27
  Current serial number in output stream:  28
am i missing something?

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tarter2@starter2-laptop:~$ uname -a
Linux starter2-laptop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

P.S. The first screenshort, whats the games names? Yeah i know its chess, more details please.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:55 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Well, you’ve seen a lot of posts on this site about Linux and Free and Open Source Software on this very site. Mostly all of it has been pro-Linux. So here, to balance the scales, is the other side of the story!
Now time for some counter-balance;
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No Games! Or at least, not many games to speak of. No, I don’t mean running an emulator to support Windows games. No, I don’t mean the emulators for arcade and Nintendo. I want to play, not emulate. Native, platform games, made for it and working with it. No, I don’t mean some text-mode rogue thing or the nerdy little puzzle games that come with Gnome and KDE. When will Linux decide to pay more attention to the FUN side?
Sorry but this isn't a problem with Linux.
If game makers didn't make games for Windows, it would be just as game-deprived as Linux.
This is a problem with the game makers.
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Chasing Windows. Seriously, it’s nice that most distros went from all the command and console stuff to a full desktop-capable system like Macs and Windows. Now it needs to find its own look. Too many distros out there are trying to be a perfect clone of Windows XP; if I want XP, I know where to find it. Get Linux over its insecurity complex and have it make up its own “look and feel” already!
Again, not a problem with Linux. Not a problem at all in fact. So what if you think Windows XP looks simular to a Linux distro? If that's really a bad thing, then you're saying that Windows is bad lol.
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All the hardware is supported - except mine. Can I get this digital camera working? 800 drivers for digital cameras - nope mine isn’t on the list. What about this wireless card? Dozens of brands supported - whoops, I bought the wrong one! I’m tired of playing hardware bingo - either I’m very unlucky at it, or there’s still some big holes to fill.
Again, this has nothing to do with Linux. It's up to the hardware manufacturers to provide working drivers. If they didn't provide working drivers for Windows, then there would be the same problem in Windows. This is a problem with the hardware manufacturers.
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Problems coming up to a desktop. At least detect good default settings for a monitor and video card, and then give me an easy way to fix the size and color depth if I need to. Many, many distros do this, so the ones that don’t and either haul off and boot me to a plaid striped letterbox screen or leave me at a console trying to guess what my monitor’s vertical refresh rate is are even guiltier by comparison. It’s all open source, so the distros that get it wrong can just borrow from the ones that get it right, right?
I've never run into this problem, I don't know anyone who has run into this problem, and I don't know what's wrong with just switching to a distro that works perfectly for you. It's not like they cost any money or take a lot of effort to download.
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Inner-Linux flame wars. KDE vs. Gnome! Emacs vs. vi! Ubuntu vs. Mandriva! All of these are fought just as feverishly as if they…. cost money. Hey, you’re giving it all away for free, so who cares what anybody uses?
Wow. That's like saying "Windows sucks because people who use windows vista and people who use windows xp argue over which is better". Do I even need to reply to this? lol..
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FOSS Purity. OK, I loaded a closed-source driver onto my system so my video card will work. Do I have to be nailed to a wall for it? Yes, I know open source is the One True Way - and if all the drivers are open one day, that will make me very happy. In the mean time, I care about what works first. Ditto the haggling over licenses - there’s forty of them, most of them differ in one or two details, and thinking about legal stuff gives the user side of me a headache.
Again, wow. That's like saying "Halo sucks because there are people who like halo who say halo is the best". rofl..
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Obsession over taking over from Windows. When is the year of Linux on the desktop? Who cares? Look, again, you’re giving it away for free, so if you take over 98% of Microsoft’s market share, you are ahead exactly how far?
You're right. This is clearly a problem with the operating system called "Linux",
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Linux devotees are too serious. Because you can’t post a list like this and not have a bunch of them come flame you. Lighten up. Your system’s fine. We love you. You’re big enough now to take your beating along with the other platforms[/list]
So if someone who uses Windows is serious, that would mean Windows sucks?
... so either your post is a joke, or Windows sucks.





Whatever, thanks for the laughs. I actually feel BETTER about Linux after reading your post.
It seems that it was actually intended to be a critique, and yet you couldn't even find a single thing wrong with Linux.

You are aware that you have only made Linux look better, right?


By the way, I don't even use Linux anymore, so don't even bother posting an "lol ur opinion dun count cuz ur a fanboi lolololol" retort.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:57 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Windows has much less hassle than linux. Sure linux is more stable and more straight to the point, but it requires too much effort for the casual pc user.
So Windows is like porn and Linux is like a girlfriend?
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So Windows is like porn and Linux is like a girlfriend?
That made me giggle, but please watch your double-posts.
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:34 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Well, you’ve seen a lot of posts on this site about Linux and Free and Open Source Software on this very site. Mostly all of it has been pro-Linux. So here, to balance the scales, is the other side of the story!
  1. No Games! Or at least, not many games to speak of. No, I don’t mean running an emulator to support Windows games. No, I don’t mean the emulators for arcade and Nintendo. I want to play, not emulate. Native, platform games, made for it and working with it. No, I don’t mean some text-mode rogue thing or the nerdy little puzzle games that come with Gnome and KDE. When will Linux decide to pay more attention to the FUN side?
  2. Chasing Windows. Seriously, it’s nice that most distros went from all the command and console stuff to a full desktop-capable system like Macs and Windows. Now it needs to find its own look. Too many distros out there are trying to be a perfect clone of Windows XP; if I want XP, I know where to find it. Get Linux over its insecurity complex and have it make up its own “look and feel” already!
  3. All the hardware is supported - except mine. Can I get this digital camera working? 800 drivers for digital cameras - nope mine isn’t on the list. What about this wireless card? Dozens of brands supported - whoops, I bought the wrong one! I’m tired of playing hardware bingo - either I’m very unlucky at it, or there’s still some big holes to fill.
  4. Problems coming up to a desktop. At least detect good default settings for a monitor and video card, and then give me an easy way to fix the size and color depth if I need to. Many, many distros do this, so the ones that don’t and either haul off and boot me to a plaid striped letterbox screen or leave me at a console trying to guess what my monitor’s vertical refresh rate is are even guiltier by comparison. It’s all open source, so the distros that get it wrong can just borrow from the ones that get it right, right?
  5. Inner-Linux flame wars. KDE vs. Gnome! Emacs vs. vi! Ubuntu vs. Mandriva! All of these are fought just as feverishly as if they…. cost money. Hey, you’re giving it all away for free, so who cares what anybody uses?
  6. FOSS Purity. OK, I loaded a closed-source driver onto my system so my video card will work. Do I have to be nailed to a wall for it? Yes, I know open source is the One True Way - and if all the drivers are open one day, that will make me very happy. In the mean time, I care about what works first. Ditto the haggling over licenses - there’s forty of them, most of them differ in one or two details, and thinking about legal stuff gives the user side of me a headache.
  7. Obsession over taking over from Windows. When is the year of Linux on the desktop? Who cares? Look, again, you’re giving it away for free, so if you take over 98% of Microsoft’s market share, you are ahead exactly how far?
  8. Linux devotees are too serious. Because you can’t post a list like this and not have a bunch of them come flame you. Lighten up. Your system’s fine. We love you. You’re big enough now to take your beating along with the other platforms
1. just because u misconfigure or just plan configure ur linux box or even use a noob linux distro like redhat or Ubuntu. Doesnt mean u cant run Windows platform game on linux. I just happen to run all kind of windows games on my linux box. mostly 3D game like, battlefield 1942 and bf2, starcraft. never had any problems.

2. first off its not called console or commandline its called a "TERMINAL". 2nd its not a desktop system it just happens to be a program called "X SERVER". 3rd MAC just happends to be OpenBSD aka UNIX with a GUI. 4th linux distro arent not trying to look like winXP, its noobs like that install gnome, so they cant lost, or be like omfg how did i change this or that.

3. All hardware is support, if u knew a thing about linux is wouldnt be a problem. you easily convert ur PE binary files to linux source or a linux binary file. More then likely you just didnt load the drivers in aka modprobe them.

4. all you have to do is edit or "X server" settings.

5. well KDE vs gnome, lke saying LINUX pros (KDE) vs LINUX NOOBS (gnome). and the whole war for different distro there all noob distros, but for Mandriva. Mandriva been around for a long time. and then comes these noob distros. its like windows trying to a linux (which they are aka redhat and some other one). whos going to trust a linux distro windows made. the only people that will do that is windows noobs.

7. BTW linux isnt free, just the true source code of linux is free. u have to pay for all distro, but thoses distro have for version of there distro. for a desktop, i dont think linux we will where windows is. But for a server, LINUX/UNIX is number one for that and windows will never win. about 2/3 or servers linux and unix and the other 1/3 is windows. the mostly used web server just happens to be apache. Y linux, well when u have open source for server, people can easily find exploit and get them patched faster then windows ever will.
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Linux is like building blocks, to get a structure you have to build. The thing that makes linux linux is the fact that it is open source, and customizable. You can get it to run anything, on anything, and for anything, IF you know how.

The way the unix operating system was developed and is now shaped, was based off the idea of freedom. If you know how, you can. It is free, and the source available. This is true freedom, but most desktop users don't know how to harness it.

There are two big "problems" linux has been very disliked for: #1. The commercial companies under support. #2. Its complexity, resulting from its customizability.

In order to Jerry-rig all this code to work on every platform, and slap it into one installer is a hard task to undertake. The installers are usually very limited in their support for detecting certain hardware and installing/configuring it. 99.9% of the time that something does not work on a HD installed UNIX OS is the result of a misconfiguration, not a bug. On a correctly configured computer running gentoo, I can play games on a PC w/ a 400 MHz CPU, where in most other operating systems would require 1.5 GHz CPU (if not more). Most users do not know how to configure it right, so they turn to the automatic installer. This results in misconfigurations, making the user unhappy.

The fact that UNIX OS's tend to be so customizable is the real downfall, and yet the thing that makes linux linux. For a company to port their code to UNIX, and have it support all the hardware/system types is very hard (when considering money). By the time you add in the money to port it, customer support because the code doesn't properly support a certain system, and the few people who would buy it, it is far cheaper to just ignore the open source world.

Other than these to flaws, linux is the uber awesome ultimate operating system. We are working on it, and when we fix these, you too can enjoy the linux world too. Remember, we do this for the public good, for YOU, so please dont flame us to much ;)

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Linux is like building blocks, to get a structure you have to build. The thing that makes linux linux is the fact that it is open source, and customizable. You can get it to run anything, on anything, and for anything, IF you know how.

The way the unix operating system was developed and is now shaped, was based off the idea of freedom. If you know how, you can. It is free, and the source available. This is true freedom, but most desktop users don't know how to harness it.

There are two big "problems" linux has been very disliked for: #1. The commercial companies under support. #2. Its complexity, resulting from its customizability.

In order to Jerry-rig all this code to work on every platform, and slap it into one installer is a hard task to undertake. The installers are usually very limited in their support for detecting certain hardware and installing/configuring it. 99.9% of the time that something does not work on a HD installed UNIX OS is the result of a misconfiguration, not a bug. On a correctly configured computer running gentoo, I can play games on a PC w/ a 400 MHz CPU, where in most other operating systems would require 1.5 GHz CPU (if not more). Most users do not know how to configure it right, so they turn to the automatic installer. This results in misconfigurations, making the user unhappy.

The fact that UNIX OS's tend to be so customizable is the real downfall, and yet the thing that makes linux linux. For a company to port their code to UNIX, and have it support all the hardware/system types is very hard (when considering money). By the time you add in the money to port it, customer support because the code doesn't properly support a certain system, and the few people who would buy it, it is far cheaper to just ignore the open source world.

Other than these to flaws, linux is the uber awesome ultimate operating system. We are working on it, and when we fix these, you too can enjoy the linux world too. Remember, we do this for the public good, for YOU, so please dont flame us to much ;)

Thank you, n0.obAtroN
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Also there is DSL linux that witch u can inside of windows. its like a Virtual OS.

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Linux is like building blocks, to get a structure you have to build. The thing that makes linux linux is the fact that it is open source, and customizable. You can get it to run anything, on anything, and for anything, IF you know how.

The way the unix operating system was developed and is now shaped, was based off the idea of freedom. If you know how, you can. It is free, and the source available. This is true freedom, but most desktop users don't know how to harness it.

There are two big "problems" linux has been very disliked for: #1. The commercial companies under support. #2. Its complexity, resulting from its customizability.

In order to Jerry-rig all this code to work on every platform, and slap it into one installer is a hard task to undertake. The installers are usually very limited in their support for detecting certain hardware and installing/configuring it. 99.9% of the time that something does not work on a HD installed UNIX OS is the result of a misconfiguration, not a bug. On a correctly configured computer running gentoo, I can play games on a PC w/ a 400 MHz CPU, where in most other operating systems would require 1.5 GHz CPU (if not more). Most users do not know how to configure it right, so they turn to the automatic installer. This results in misconfigurations, making the user unhappy.

The fact that UNIX OS's tend to be so customizable is the real downfall, and yet the thing that makes linux linux. For a company to port their code to UNIX, and have it support all the hardware/system types is very hard (when considering money). By the time you add in the money to port it, customer support because the code doesn't properly support a certain system, and the few people who would buy it, it is far cheaper to just ignore the open source world.

Other than these to flaws, linux is the uber awesome ultimate operating system. We are working on it, and when we fix these, you too can enjoy the linux world too. Remember, we do this for the public good, for YOU, so please dont flame us to much ;)

Thank you, n0.obAtroN
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