Who carried out 9/11 - Page 4

Raistlin · 09-27-2008, 11:22 PM

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We did not have enough reason to invade Iraq, in fact we had no reason at all.

Actually, the first Gulf War ended with a ceasefire in which Saddam agreed to certain terms in order to stay in power. He then systematically violated those terms and we gave him a full decade to comply before resuming hostilities.

Mookster · 09-27-2008, 11:23 PM

Our society thrives on the oppression of quite a many poverty stricken countries. It's not unforeseeable that a few factions may get together and send a little "**** you" in the direction of the most ignorant and arrogant one of them all. Certainly helped alot of people realize how ****ed up world economy is.
We're all responsible.

Otaku · 09-27-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hellinsect

Anyone who does go to college gets payed about 10 times what you and I get paid because the companies have to hire them to get loans or grants of any kind.

Do you work for $20 a day?

hellinsect · 09-27-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Otaku

Do you work for $20 a day?

Computer Science Majors and other Science Majors all start at 80,000 dollars a year min + 3 weeks vacation + free health care. This is after 4 years of college.

I saw companies bagging to hire people that hardly knew anything about programing just because they had a degree.

6satan6archist6 · 09-28-2008, 12:01 AM

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cala4 · 09-28-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 6satan6archist6

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Otaku · 09-28-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hellinsect

Computer Science Majors and other Science Majors all start at 80,000 dollars a year min + 3 weeks vacation + free health care. This is after 4 years of college.

I saw companies bagging to hire people that hardly knew anything about programing just because they had a degree.

Do you earn $8000 a year?

What companies? Especially in this economy.

Also, you don't have to be smart to go to college; conversely, you don't have to go to college if you're smart. Yes, I do feel like I have to explain this to you.

And, again, how would you know this?

hellinsect · 09-28-2008, 01:27 AM

I am a going to college to get my Computer Science Degree. I had the chance to talk to the Computer Science Majors that are graduating and the teachers and representatives from the companies.

There is a company in my area that hires every CS grad and starts them out at 80,000 a year. I am taking the word of their representatives, students that worked for them and teachers. There is also a Physic Company that does disaster testing and they hired all the Physics Majors and paid them similarly high amounts.

Edit: The government pays me 642 dollars to go to collage each semester. Money I don't have to pay back ever. This is after all my classes where completely payed for by grants.

Now they are offering me $1750 of interest free loans and $1000 at 6 percent PER SEMESTER! And no money payed back until 6 months after I graduate 4 years from now.

They do this for everyone that is in the top %50 percent of high school and that comes from a low income family.

Otaku · 09-28-2008, 02:33 AM

Holy ****, the government wants people to be educated?

Names of the companies and links, please.

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Originally Posted by hellinsect

Any so call expert that believes the government is evil looses their job. Why, so they can take away all rights and enslave everyone including the so called experts.

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Originally Posted by hellinsect

The number one requirement to get any expert job is a degree. I could program with my eyes closed but would not do a company much good without a degree because their grants are based on this fact.

hellinsect · 09-28-2008, 03:20 AM

Dude, if you want to know how it is to be a CS student, go to collage.
digikey is near where I live and they hire a lot of people. Blizzard and many other companies will not hire you unless you got a CS degree or tons of references and experience. The government and banks give loans and grants to these companies based on whether they hire people with these degrees.

Most degrees leave the college student broke, in debt or stuck with a teaching job that has large union fees. Even if you don't have crap to do at your job, a person with a CS degree or a physics degree is given the best treatment. I believe this is because they can see the obvious violations on the periodic table and problems in the terrorists events and other need to rely what others say.

Zhuinden · 09-28-2008, 10:39 AM

Educated people are harder to control. That's why the public education in the USA is horrid.

DarthSlyGuy · 09-28-2008, 10:51 AM

Personally I know the terrorists did it, but I don't think our governments hands are totally clean. I think they knew about it and ignored it, credible intel or not, it should have been taken seriously. Either that, or the intel community or Bush administration let it happen. Thats my 2 cents on this whole thing.

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Educated people are harder to control. That's why the public education in the USA is horrid.

QFT. And the 'No Child Left Behind Act' made it that much worse. Most the people out there who don't know a teacher might not be aware of this though. Whats sad is both Obama and McCain are defenders of this act.

Akazukin · 09-28-2008, 11:52 AM

I think the truth is simply an inability to do a job well.

What makes you think that those group of people are giving you a world-class service? Security, for example, is just a propaganda.

I have been through different companies and I'm a civil servant myself. I can only say that those companies are good at covering their image. Each different company have different underground stories. Stories to prove that their performance is poor.

People like Hitler, or Saddam, will tell his people that they will fight to get more land and improve their livings. That's how war started in the first place. The US President don't really need to start a war, they have a high standard of living. Similar to London, Brunei, and other countries, where a terrorist bomb accident have happened. Can we still say that it's their president who plotted it?

Mr.Lampy · 09-30-2008, 10:10 AM

That whole child left behind bull**** is just the governments way of breeding the next generation of sheep. Like DSG I don't believe our governments hands were completely clean in this, they have known to be sketchy in the past "scandals" *cough* watergate cough*, there is no way they didn't know about this, they can tell when people wipe their asses but not be able to know when people get on a plane and hijack it. The whole 9/11 bull**** needs to be put to rest our government probably spent more lives over seas during this "police action" then were lost in the explosion/collapse of the towers.

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09-27-2008, 11:23 PM	#62 (permalink)
Mookster Senior Member Gold Member Moderator Crusader Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sexyland. Posts: 3,490	Our society thrives on the oppression of quite a many poverty stricken countries. It's not unforeseeable that a few factions may get together and send a little "** you" in the direction of the most ignorant and arrogant one of them all. Certainly helped alot of people realize how **ed up world economy is. We're all responsible. __________________
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09-28-2008, 01:27 AM	#68 (permalink)
hellinsect Deviant Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 115	I am a going to college to get my Computer Science Degree. I had the chance to talk to the Computer Science Majors that are graduating and the teachers and representatives from the companies. There is a company in my area that hires every CS grad and starts them out at 80,000 a year. I am taking the word of their representatives, students that worked for them and teachers. There is also a Physic Company that does disaster testing and they hired all the Physics Majors and paid them similarly high amounts. Edit: The government pays me 642 dollars to go to collage each semester. Money I don't have to pay back ever. This is after all my classes where completely payed for by grants. Now they are offering me $1750 of interest free loans and $1000 at 6 percent PER SEMESTER! And no money payed back until 6 months after I graduate 4 years from now. They do this for everyone that is in the top %50 percent of high school and that comes from a low income family. __________________ Last edited by hellinsect : 09-28-2008 at 02:10 AM.
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09-28-2008, 03:20 AM	#70 (permalink)
hellinsect Deviant Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 115	Dude, if you want to know how it is to be a CS student, go to collage. digikey is near where I live and they hire a lot of people. Blizzard and many other companies will not hire you unless you got a CS degree or tons of references and experience. The government and banks give loans and grants to these companies based on whether they hire people with these degrees. Most degrees leave the college student broke, in debt or stuck with a teaching job that has large union fees. Even if you don't have crap to do at your job, a person with a CS degree or a physics degree is given the best treatment. I believe this is because they can see the obvious violations on the periodic table and problems in the terrorists events and other need to rely what others say. __________________
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09-28-2008, 11:52 AM	#73 (permalink)
Akazukin Evangelist Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,099	I think the truth is simply an inability to do a job well. What makes you think that those group of people are giving you a world-class service? Security, for example, is just a propaganda. I have been through different companies and I'm a civil servant myself. I can only say that those companies are good at covering their image. Each different company have different underground stories. Stories to prove that their performance is poor. People like Hitler, or Saddam, will tell his people that they will fight to get more land and improve their livings. That's how war started in the first place. The US President don't really need to start a war, they have a high standard of living. Similar to London, Brunei, and other countries, where a terrorist bomb accident have happened. Can we still say that it's their president who plotted it?
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09-30-2008, 10:10 AM	#74 (permalink)
Mr.Lampy Name's Lampy, Mr.Lampy Senior Member Moderator Gold Member Saint Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NO U Posts: 5,955	That whole child left behind bull**** is just the governments way of breeding the next generation of sheep. Like DSG I don't believe our governments hands were completely clean in this, they have known to be sketchy in the past "scandals" cough watergate cough, there is no way they didn't know about this, they can tell when people wipe their asses but not be able to know when people get on a plane and hijack it. The whole 9/11 bull*** needs to be put to rest our government probably spent more lives over seas during this "police action" then were lost in the explosion/collapse of the towers. __________________
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